LICD STRIP 6903 PANEL 1 IDS – MARCY’S OFFICE. RAYNE What’s our current debt load? MARCY About 6.2 billion. PANEL 2 IDS – MARCY’S OFFICE. RAYNE How much of it is being called? MARCY About 6.2 billion. PANEL 3 IDS – MARCY’S OFFICE. RAYNE How much of it can we re-finance? MARCY About no billion. PANEL 4 IDS – MARCY’S OFFICE. RAYNE At that level, does the money even seem real anymore? MARCY Only when you see an invoice for it.